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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.21 17:21:00 -
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Of course the pro-peace faction still exists.
We Amarr are a peace-loving people.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.21 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Anwylyd Al'Vos
Originally by: Hardin The sooner everyone else realises that the Amarr work only for the betterment of our species as a whole, and accept our enlightened leadership, the sooner we shall have peace!
And the sooner your kind, Hardin, realize none of the other nation states want your kind of betterment, "serve us or die," the sooner we can move on to actually bettering the human race.
Would you believe that Hardin himself has ancestors who were slaves?
Just think, if you give yourself up and allow yourself to be civilised, in a few generations your descendents could be full and productive members of Amarrian society in a peaceful cluster.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.21 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 21/02/2008 20:22:21 As far as I am aware, the Ushra'Khan have neither committed crimes in the Republic space nor attacked Electus Matari or allies. Like I said elsewhere, the situation is such that we have more than enough to patrol in our own regions, and as such cannot give assistance to the Empire in containing criminal activity in their space.
Elsebeth
And if evidence of U'K crimes within Republic space were presented to you? What would you do then?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.21 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Becq Starforged
* The 7th Fleet buildup was not a reaction to Defiant activity in the Bleak Lands, as there has been no such activity in the Bleak Lands -- until recently -- for a good long time. Rather the buildup (which was heavily concealed) was revealed by recent Defiant actions. The 7th Fleet would still be building up in total secrecy today, were it not for the brilliant move by brother Kald.
That is absolutely 100% wrong.
The 7th Fleet was sent into the Bleak Lands only after the attacks started.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.22 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Becq Starforged
109/02/01 Karishal stabbed in the back; Defiants withdraw from Empire space. 109/11/28 7th Fleet begins mobilization into the Bleaks 109/12/04 7th Fleet fortifies bases in the Bleaks 109/12/06 Defiants surprise attack vs. 7th Fleet
So ... what you are saying is that the mobilization and subsequent fortification efforts were in response to the Defiants' surprise attack the week after.
Seems to me as though it's the other way around, that the Defiants reacted to the fortification, almost as if they were ... I don't know ... maybe responding to a threat against their people?
I should correct one fact, though, the Defiants were being led by Ode Goriad, not Kald Wedafur.
How very clever of you to "forget" to cite all of the news stories regarding the Bleak Lands.
Like this one which describes the effects of an attack before the 7th Fleet was deployed, for example:
109/11/19 Entire Colony of Minmatar Slaves goes Missing
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:49:00 -
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Do you consider sedition against the Republic to be a crime?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 22/02/2008 12:22:51
So in your opinion, the law isn't absolute and doesn't have to be obeyed by your friends.
I'm glad we cleared that up.
I'd also like to remind you that the theft of Republic Fleet capital ships from within Republic space by the Defiants most likely constitutes a crime. I guess that in your opinion they probably don't deserve any punishment either.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:37:00 -
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There's no need for you to help us in ridding the Bleak Lands of pirates. Maybe you should concentrate your efforts on Amamake and nearby systems which seem to have a far worse piracy problem.
As for EM not operating in Empire space, I would like to remind you that we originally declared war on EM purely because of their operations in the Bleak Lands.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn 'We do not operate there' is a pretty convenient excuse to look away. If Amarr Navy ships should ever go amiss you can be sure that we'll hunt down the perpetrators wherever they hide.
Indeed Tharrn, and here's the truly amazing thing.
When EM attacked IHR ships in Amarrian space, they claimed (without evidence) that IHR had been raiding Republic space for slaves, and that they were acting lawfully. In other words, they claimed to be following breakers of Republic law into Empire space and attacking them, even without any evidence of wrong-doing.
However, now that it's Minmatars breaking Republic law and fleeing to Imperial space, it's a different story.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon I admit being guilty to the notion that kidnapping our people to slavery is a crime worse than theft.
I believe the Republic judicial system agrees with me, when it comes to degree of punishment.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Except of course, that IHR kidnapped nobody.
And yet, EM still attacked them in Imperial space.
So much for EM not operating in the Empire.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.22 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 22/02/2008 14:14:23
Considering that on your previous incursions into Amarrian space you have acted like common buccaneers, you should interpret it as the opposite.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.23 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 23/02/2008 11:23:38
Originally by: Becq Starforged
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri It is hardly news.
They have been committing acts of war against Amarr without remorse for the last year.
I think that it would be more fair to say that Electus Matari has been committing acts of war against PIE for the last year, and given that PIE declared war against Electus Matari just over a year ago, why exactly should you be surprised that they have committed acts of war during that time?
Except that we only declared war on EM only after they committed acts of aggression against civilian shipping in Empire space.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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